Away - 06/24 Jersey

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(Midas, can we at least get a Grabavoy rant?)
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Might as well at this point.

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Dude, despite the many, widely scattered posts, it's not complicated. It takes 30 seconds to summarize, largely because we don't really know the whole story.

Mix was signed for a lot of money and was a regular on the USMNT. Seemed a key piece for us. In the first year under Kreis, he went from a regular starter to a bench player behind seemingly less talented players (Midas, can we at least get a Grabavoy rant?).

As 2016 started Vieira put him back in the starting XI, and he seemed to do well, but again fell out of the starting lineup. Before long, he wasn't even making the 18. Week after week, he was nowhere near the pitch while players who were journeymen at best were getting playing time. The whole time Mix was, at least publicly, a model citizen, showing up for autograph sessions, training hard, saying the right things in public - even as it became clear he would never play for us again.

Speculation was rampant about whether Vieira simply rated him very low or whether there was some behind the scenes issue that put him permanently in Chateau Bow Wow.

What was clear is that for the last half of 2016, he was out. He wasn't going to see the pitch even if our only other alternative was to run out a golden retriever in cleats. The question from some is whether that's where Pirlo has found himself (which I think highly unlikely, but the lack of clarity and seeming lack of logic to the Mix situation means speculation is hardly unwarranted).
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You're an enabler.
 
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Disregarding the qualities of Pirlo, he's not match fit enough to start vs New Jersey. It's two months since he last kicked the ball in a competitive game, and everybody loses the touch in that long time.
 
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Gotham Gator said:
Dude, despite the many, widely scattered posts, it's not complicated. It takes 30 seconds to summarize, largely because we don't really know the whole story.

Mix was signed for a lot of money and was a regular on the USMNT. Seemed a key piece for us. In the first year under Kreis, he went from a regular starter to a bench player behind seemingly less talented players (Midas, can we at least get a Grabavoy rant?).

As 2016 started Vieira put him back in the starting XI, and he seemed to do well, but again fell out of the starting lineup. Before long, he wasn't even making the 18. Week after week, he was nowhere near the pitch while players who were journeymen at best were getting playing time. The whole time Mix was, at least publicly, a model citizen, showing up for autograph sessions, training hard, saying the right things in public - even as it became clear he would never play for us again.

Speculation was rampant about whether Vieira simply rated him very low or whether there was some behind the scenes issue that put him permanently in Chateau Bow Wow.

What was clear is that for the last half of 2016, he was out. He wasn't going to see the pitch even if our only other alternative was to run out a golden retriever in cleats. The question from some is whether that's where Pirlo has found himself (which I think highly unlikely, but the lack of clarity and seeming lack of logic to the Mix situation means speculation is hardly unwarranted).
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One theory is that he actually wasn't training hard and wasn't coachable, so I wouldn't say Mix was "training hard" as a fact.
 
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Gotham Gator said:
Dude, despite the many, widely scattered posts, it's not complicated. It takes 30 seconds to summarize, largely because we don't really know the whole story.

Mix was signed for a lot of money and was a regular on the USMNT. Seemed a key piece for us. In the first year under Kreis, he went from a regular starter to a bench player behind seemingly less talented players (Midas, can we at least get a Grabavoy rant?).

As 2016 started Vieira put him back in the starting XI, and he seemed to do well, but again fell out of the starting lineup. Before long, he wasn't even making the 18. Week after week, he was nowhere near the pitch while players who were journeymen at best were getting playing time. The whole time Mix was, at least publicly, a model citizen, showing up for autograph sessions, training hard, saying the right things in public - even as it became clear he would never play for us again.

Speculation was rampant about whether Vieira simply rated him very low or whether there was some behind the scenes issue that put him permanently in Chateau Bow Wow.

What was clear is that for the last half of 2016, he was out. He wasn't going to see the pitch even if our only other alternative was to run out a golden retriever in cleats. The question from some is whether that's where Pirlo has found himself (which I think highly unlikely, but the lack of clarity and seeming lack of logic to the Mix situation means speculation is hardly unwarranted).
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You're a Mix apologizer
 
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So today was Heineken Rivalry Week media day. Red Bulls sent: Their backup coach person, Robles, Kljestan, BWP, and Tyler Adams. NYCFC sent Vieira, McNamara, and Harrison.

Why did Red Bulls have 2x more media persons, who knows? Probably because they have the voice in the media space than we do.

McNamara and Harrison offer an interesting strategy: US and England (Europe). Interesting Villa wasn't there but Villa doesn't need to be there.

EDIT: Well, Villa and Yangel are there too. Huge star power.
 
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So today was Heineken Rivalry Week media day. Red Bulls sent: Their backup coach person, Robles, Kljestan, BWP, and Tyler Adams. NYCFC sent Vieira, McNamara, and Harrison.

Why did Red Bulls have 2x more media persons, who knows? Probably because they have the voice in the media space than we do.

McNamara and Harrison offer an interesting strategy: US and England (Europe). Interesting Villa wasn't there but Villa doesn't need to be there.
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yangel was there as well

ETA: villa too
 
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